Episode 21

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16th Aug 2026

When Time Ran Out (1980)

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Matinee Minutiae: Season Eight, Episode Twenty-Two

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00:00:03 DJ: Oh. Shut the door. You're letting the air out. Geez. Oh my goodness. Well, she paid the bill finally. So it's working at least today.

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00:00:21 DJ: Oh. I mean, you were able to make that grilled cheese sandwich right here on the counter.

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00:00:32 DJ: Oh. I thought that. I thought that was spray tan. It was actually Velveeta.

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00:00:47 DJ: I was gonna say, are you watching the hair salon over yonder again?

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00:00:55 DJ: Oh, well, you know, when those politicians want to hide, they come out here to Gopher Gulch. that lady over at the Good Times Motel, she is. She is on the take list there. She's got some good stories she shares.

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00:01:14 DJ: Mhm. That reminds me, when the kids go back to school, we've got to bleach the pool. Oh.

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00:01:24 DJ: Oh, well, here we are, firmly in the middle of the summer, and the kids are out in the back there playing their games and, well, because one of the kids had a show and tell and brought their pet ferret in. We're gonna be, closing the place down for a little bit here because, you know, we've got some of those gorgeous shag rugs from the seventies, and, well, they don't take well to being Cleaned. So we're gonna.

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00:02:02 DJ: I thought the ferret brought the pool, Anyways, yeah, we have a little thing that we do here now that, you've all come in from the outdoors there and the, the the sunlight and. Well, okay, sit down for a bit because we got one more to talk to you about.

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00:02:25 DJ: This. Okay, here we go. We're gonna go pop that into the VCR.

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00:02:36 Matt: My stomach did not need that.

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00:02:59 Matt: shoulder pads.

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00:03:05 Matt: I think that is Tammy Faye Baker.

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00:03:15 Matt: Oh. What's America? Creek center. Faye. She's been crying again.

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00:03:24 Mystery Announcer: Good afternoon, time travelers. Today you are in nineteen eighty, as the world entered a decade defined by political shifts and cultural change in the United States, the nineteen eighty United States presidential election brought Ronald Reagan to power, signaling a sharp conservative turn in American politics. Globally, cold war tensions escalated following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which dominated international headlines. Tragedy struck the music world with the murder of John Lennon, a moment that stunned fans worldwide and marked the end of an era. The year also saw the eruption of Mount Saint Helens, one of the most devastating natural disasters in U.S. history. Amid the turmoil, a new generation arrived with the births of future stars Kim Kardashian and Christina Aguilera, foreshadowing the pop culture dominance of decades to come.

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00:04:23 Matt: Yes. he it was my my uncle and his family. And they actually lived right near under Lake, well, within that little area. But it had ash. They had they, they were just covered in ash like it was snow. Wow. and they they had to evacuate and get away from there. yeah, we got you got ash and stuff all the way down. as far as California and stuff like that. It was just, it was, it was insane.

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00:05:11 Matt: Oh, didn't didn't you hear that? that, I think it was our president, decided that he was going to help put out the Canadian firefighters. So he released water from California from the California, Canada border and. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right.

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00:05:32 Matt: Well, no, no, there's not two states in between that border. right?

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00:05:42 Matt: No, they're all Antifa, apparently, anyway.

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00:06:14 Matt: Well, let's see here. Where is it? Okay. Here it is. Movie section. So playing at the moment is The Empire Strikes Back. Oh, that's with Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams, David Prowse, which was the voice of Darth Vader by Erik, James Earl Jones. Oh, I love that movie. nine to five with our, of course, Jane Fonda, Dolly Parton, Lily Tomlin where they tie up Dabney Coleman. that was, that was a good scene. Yeah.

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00:07:00 Matt: By three strong independent women. Yeah. then we have.

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00:07:09 Matt: Oh, I'm sure he was pretty. He wasn't. He was kind of a looker back then, too.

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00:07:15 Matt: so then we have stir crazy with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor.

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00:07:25 Matt: Oh, JoBeth Williams, I know that's one of your favorites, sir.

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00:07:39 Matt: No, no, that's that's, that's Mary Jo Sperber. Oh.

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00:07:45 Matt: Yeah. Jo Beth Williams was a hottie, a hottie hottie. So. Yeah. Okay, I, I can see how that happened.

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00:07:57 Matt: and then airplane with Robert Hays, Julie Hagerty, Leslie Nielsen and oh, one hundred and fifty other people, which maybe, maybe we'll have to watch, you know, next season if, if cougar can, you know, find the tapes.

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00:08:17 Matt: Yeah, as long as he hasn't eat them again. so. Yeah. Anyway. Oh, Robert Hayes. Oh, he. I just thought he was so yummy.

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00:08:34 Matt: That was so.

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00:08:47 Matt: Well, the things that Leslie Nielsen said sounded a lot like our things that are happening in the government right now. Okay. Moving on. Okay. Are any which way loose or no? I'm sorry. Any which way you can.

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00:09:03 Matt: So, which was Clint Eastwood, Sondra Locke, Jeffrey Lewis, and William Smith. I that's one of the ones I, I never, I don't think I, maybe I don't think I watched that one.

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00:09:35 Matt: Oh. Oh, honey. so. Ruth Gordon.

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00:09:39 Matt: Oh. See, now, I would never have known that. Known that her name, except for watching movies with you. So, yeah, not that, not that that's a bad thing because she's pretty awesome.

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00:10:44 Matt: Oh yeah. Because they'll really come after us for, you know.

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00:10:54 Matt: Like to be on Harrison Ford's playlist.

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00:11:11 Mystery Announcer: Today, you are watching a star studded disaster movie in which a volcano causes havoc on an idyllic South Pacific island, which has become a holiday Paradise for the rich and powerful. Most of them ignore the danger, but one group embarks on a risky escape attempt. Paul Newman, Jacqueline Bisset and William Holden star in nineteen eighties when time ran out.

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00:11:39 DJ: Yes, we got to get our summer hiatus looked at there by the doctor. but, you know, speaking of disasters and terrible things happening, those kids are out in the alley with their, their boombox.

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00:12:22 DJ: So I know that we're in theory in the eighties right now, back before we took this journey, I was looking at the cast. And of course, you go out to type the names of some of these cast members. And I kept putting in Jacqueline Bisset thinking about the vacuum cleaner brand Bissell.

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00:12:44 DJ: apparently, despite her name being sort of exotic, she was not French. And, we'll get to that. So, if you are late to the party, here's where we tell you the, the formula for the discussion. Just like a play that's performed in the theater, a movie is made into a play before the guys at the studio decide we're going to send you some money because we want this made into a movie. It's called a screenplay. So the the three acts that exist just like a Shakespeare play, he starts with the first act and we call this the setup or the problem. So, setting the stage, if you will, of this story when time ran out. And hopefully we don't run out of time, the AC is working for now on a beautiful South Pacific island. Oh, sounds like a musical might be brewing. Maybe not. An ambitious developer prepares to open a luxurious new resort built near an active volcano. Does he run for office later? dismissing warnings from geologist Hank Anderson. Because what else would he be named? That the mountain is becoming dangerously Unstable like the current administration. investors, tourists and dignitaries gather to celebrate the grand opening. You know, they call that a ribbon cutting and unaware that nature is about to shatter their Paradise. Oh, kind of like finding out they ran out of wine. is volcanic tremors intensify, like, you know, someone not taking their meds and officials refuse to evacuate. Well, that's another something you do before a party. The guests suddenly find themselves trapped on an island where every passing minute brings them closer to a catastrophic eruption. Oh.

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00:14:39 DJ: The puns for the potential puns just from that synopsis are infinite, because this could actually even be like IBS medication.

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00:14:59 DJ: Oh, yeah.

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00:15:11 DJ: It's the crater where they're going down to the volcano. Right?

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00:15:19 Matt: Oh, yes.

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00:15:46 Matt: It looked like in a in an.

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00:15:49 Matt: I was going to say an office building or a.

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00:15:54 Matt: And we barely even see the inside because nobody goes inside. They're just oh, okay, let's we, we see them greeted outside where there's nothing really interesting going on. And then we see two, two offices inside and which is and again, state run. So, I just I'm, I don't get it. And on top of that, there's obviously you can see volcano, volcano volcanic action.

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00:16:22 Matt: So they can oh, look, there's a big hole with lava. Let's, let's drill for oil right on top of it and then build a hotel at the same time. And not only that, apparently there's also a town on this place where people a whole bunch of people live, and there's a bridge over the river of lava.

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00:16:57 Matt: Well, I, I guess so because it seemed like everything was all on top of, of everything else. And I don't understand, there's an old city and there's you know, and apparently the native people are Japanese people who don't speak Japanese. I don't.

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00:17:21 Matt: Pat Morita.

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00:17:24 DJ: Pat Morita is in this. So you know, how culturally accurate could it be?

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00:17:46 Matt: Let's just let's just.

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00:17:50 Matt: Oh.

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00:18:04 Matt: Yellowface or.

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00:18:07 Matt: Buck teeth.

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00:18:31 Matt: It's three white guys.

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00:18:45 DJ: They should have had name tags like at the reunion parties, you know?

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00:18:51 DJ: But or hats because, you know, the white guys, they like to wear hats. Maybe they could have their name.

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00:19:09 DJ: Aside from the description of what's going on and whatever, that's the setup and the problem. if you would indulge us, there are some questionable things going on here and we'll get to the first one. So, let me have it. Give me your best shot, Matt. What do you want to know?

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00:19:47 DJ: Oh, geez. Well, it's difficult because ideally, the person who might have a government job, Paul Newman's character, he should be the one who's responsible because his company is doing the drilling. And, you know, they have resources to know whether or not what they're doing is safe. it also falls upon William Holden's character because he is the hotel mogul. He's the guy whose name is on the building, and he's responsible, in theory, for the safety of his guests. So those two, you know, at some point come to odds because one thinks the problem is more serious than the other.

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00:21:35 DJ: Okay. Remind me about the helicopter in a few moments because I have something to say about that.

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00:21:42 Matt: And and let's let's not forget. And this this will play into your your answer, I'm sure. let's not forget the, the one person who was the genealogy or the volcanic guy or whatever, who and he wasn't even a main star because he got killed off pretty quickly. the guy with the dark, longer hair, he actually let the three stars of the show.

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00:22:07 Matt: Get in this little, round container thing. Yeah. Where?

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00:22:14 DJ: The shopping mall. Elevator.

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00:22:17 Matt: With a big ass hole in the middle of it where they could all just, step through and fall off and lower it down into a big pit of lava and then go, oh my stars, it's not responding because it's all burned up. Did you see that thing? When it came back up, it looked it had been through a bomb. I mean, it was it was fun, but that whole thing, I was just you are the stupidest people. I, I, if I had seen that and been on that island, I would have swam away from those people.

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00:22:56 DJ: It, it gave me I forget who the actress was that was in it. there's a famous movie from the sixties called lady in a cage, and she's stuck in an elevator. It's just kind of like this, but she's not being dangled over lava.

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00:23:12 Matt: She hasn't made us watch.

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00:23:14 DJ: don't speak too loudly. Jack can hear us downstairs. Oh. more importantly, if you somehow forgot, when this movie takes place, the very beginning of the movie set some expectations besides the fact that, you know, there's a volcano nearby. Overhead is the jet plane of the hotel mogul. And seated next to him, of course, is the slightly younger woman, his assistant or what have you. And of course, there's that awkward moment where you're upset. Yes, that awkward moment where you're on a business trip with your boss and he leans over to you and hands you a ring in a box. I mean, nineteen eighty, you, you you had your, Yeah, your chutzpah.

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00:24:09 Matt: And and then she tells him no. Why does she tell him no? Because she just is waiting for Paul Newman to finally pay attention to her and love her. And girl, it ain't gonna happen, okay?

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00:24:29 Matt: Oh, she certainly.

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00:24:32 Matt: Girl.

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00:24:36 Matt: Mhm.

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00:24:45 Matt: Or the movie.

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00:24:59 Matt: Uh.

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00:25:29 Matt: I mean, it's.

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00:26:00 Matt: Well, I mean, we see this type of thing over and over where, you know, I mean, hello, climate denial. Right? We have undeniable evidence. The the, you know, the we're fucking up this planet so badly. Pardon my language. Oh my God. Goodness. We're we're messing up this planet so badly. And yet there are people out there who are like, no, I'm not. I'm comfortable. Like, well, you're sitting inside with air conditioning. Of course you're comfortable. You know.

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00:26:35 Matt: But yeah.

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00:26:44 DJ: Mhm.

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00:26:52 Matt: And literally.

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00:26:56 Matt: I know, right? I mean, that that volcano, I think was alive because it was you know what? I don't like this guy. Let's, you know, let's just wipe them all out. So boom.

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00:27:08 DJ: And you know, that that was the, the, the hotel room with the Jacuzzi, they were pissed off because they paid for it.

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00:27:19 Matt: Big.

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00:27:21 Matt: So that would.

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00:27:24 Matt: Oh, and I and that's another thing is that the the guy that led them away. Mhm. When he saw you saw oh, we used to play in these caves when we were young and you just walk through the caves and on the other side, you're right there at the other side of the island where they can rescue you and Oh, really? Is that you didn't mention this big bridge that was held together by toothpicks, that we'd have to cross.

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00:27:51 Matt: At least.

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00:27:55 DJ: Oh, and here's here's just a, you know, a giggly moment here. The hotel mogul that William Holden played.

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00:28:04 DJ: His last name was Gilmore, you know, was supposed to evoke hoity toity ness. He was the guy who owned the hotel chain. His character's first name was Shelby.

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00:28:19 DJ: Shelby, drink your juice.

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00:28:24 DJ: So, Matt, there's a very important person who's in charge of how this story comes together, how you see the story. That person's called a director. They sit behind the camera. Who was doing that for when time ran out? And I hope they changed their number.

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00:30:08 DJ: He had an indecent order with the candy company.

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00:30:13 Matt: He was gay. Allegedly.

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00:30:18 DJ: He he knew where the best parties were.

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00:30:22 Matt: In his, his hotel room, uh, but not on this island.

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00:30:27 DJ: I have a theory about why we didn't see much of the hotel, I think. No, I think that the only rooms they had access to were the ones the cast were staying in that could.

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00:30:41 Matt: That.

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00:30:49 DJ: I think you saw the driveway also.

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00:30:53 Matt: That's that's another thing. It's like they had people I I'm whatever her her name was. She's I'm here to greet you. And so they had one guy and one girl. And there was like nobody taking the luggage.

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00:31:08 Matt: There just.

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00:31:09 Matt: Hello, I'm here to greet you. I'm the only.

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00:31:12 DJ: And, you know, it just reminds me, I watched a home improvement show recently, you know, a renovation show. And this person that was having the renovation done lived in a neighborhood with a homeowner's association. So the TV show specifically told you that they were not allowed to film the exterior of the house so that you didn't know the neighborhood they were in and vice, you know, so on and so on. It was ridiculous. It almost defeated the purpose of showcasing the home. Anyways, so, we have somebody who was the top name in this film, and they were the in charge of bringing the audience in butts in the seats. So the guy who played the leading man, they're the Hank. Hank Anderson, Mr. Paul Newman, and of course, he was born in twenty five and we lost him in oh eight. He had a good long life. I'm going to tell you a little bit about it. So Mr. Paul Newman was one of Hollywood's most charismatic leading men, earning ten Academy Award nominations during a career spanning five decades. He starred in classics including Cool Hand Luke. That sounds a little dirty. The Hustler. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The Sting, which we've discussed right here on matinee Minutia and The Color of Money, winning the Oscar for Best Actor for the latter, which means color of money. Beyond acting, Newman was a successful race car driver and co-founded Newman's Own. It's a brand that has organic products, and he donated all the properties to or sorry, all the profits to charity. He was married to actress Joanne Woodward for fifty years, and he was known for his enduring marriage, generosity and commitment to children's charities, including the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp. So since Mr. Newman knew how to keep the lights on, as we said, he had a career spanning five decades there. As you might imagine, he's got a long list of things he's been in. He's had eighty seven acting credits, including the one I mentioned, Cool Hand Luke, from sixty seven. This was Newman's defining performance as a rebellious prisoner, Luke Jackson, and it earned him an Academy Award nomination and gave cinema one of its most quoted lines. What we've got here is a failure to communicate. Oh.

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00:33:52 DJ: Right.

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00:33:54 DJ: And then a few years before Cool Hand Luke, he did a film called The Hustler. Now, you know, unlike the the famous dance of the seventies, this had nothing to do with that. But he played a pool shark who's named Fast Eddie. And not fast, you know, you get him into bed quickly, Fast Eddie Felson and Newman delivered one of the finest performances of his career, earning an Oscar nomination and creating one of film's most memorable anti-heroes. That means he's kind of a villain, not. And then in sixty nine, he. The. The Summer of love. Mr. Newman, rose to fame in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Now, this teamed him up with Robert Redford, which you would think that being similar, you know, folks that were easy on the eyes, they would have done more things together. no, only a handful. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and The Sting. And in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Newman and Redford formed one of Hollywood's greatest screen pairings in this witty, revisionist Western revisionist is a big word for basically a modern retelling of a Western back in sixty nine. And, of course, amongst this list of those top films that, Paul Newman did was the film we discussed just last year here, nineteen seventy three, The Sting and, oh, come on, we had fun with that one.

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00:35:25 DJ: This. This reunited Redford and Newman playing veteran con man Henry Gondorff. I almost said Gandalf in the Best Picture Oscar winner, a clever caper that remains a favourite with audience. And if you have any sort of age play fetishes. oh, it was interesting to see, Robert Redford pouring water over a drunk Paul Newman in the tub.

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00:35:51 Matt: That wasn't the only time those two were in a tub.

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00:35:59 Matt: Yeah. Anyway.

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00:37:49 Matt: I remember it, oh goodness.

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00:38:18 Matt: So I think that you must have watched that with your former co-host.

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00:38:22 Matt: The pretend.

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00:38:25 Matt: Didn't.

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00:38:26 DJ: That was the that was a former roommate here in Three's Company.

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00:38:32 Matt: I just know that I had to clean up a lot of chicken feathers, so.

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00:38:49 Matt: Well, that's.

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00:39:25 Matt: Oh.

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00:39:29 DJ: Oh, yes.

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00:39:30 Matt: that movie is incredible. Just incredible. And so many, gay overtones and, him shirtless and scenes, but.

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00:39:44 Matt: Brilliant, brilliant movie. And he, I mean, you could just see why people were so in love with him. yeah.

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00:39:53 DJ: So, Matt, as we progress in the story, we're now here in the middle. And what do we call that part in the middle?

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00:40:06 DJ: Let's go out to the lobby. No, we already did that. Silly.

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00:40:13 Matt: Oh, we're baking bread, huh?

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00:41:40 Matt: And.

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00:41:46 Matt: I know.

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00:42:01 Matt: Uh huh.

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00:42:09 Matt: Right.

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00:42:22 Matt: Okay. Okay.

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00:42:37 Matt: Okay.

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00:42:42 DJ: Well, I think that at the end of the day, anybody who lost a loved one due to this, little excursion that they planned on a whim because, you know, they went on to Priceline and decided we can get, you know, cut rate tickets to go to this island that they're filming a movie at. they're either going to be suing the oil company or the hotel company to pay for their funerals, so. Well, someone's.

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00:43:05 Matt: For more than this. The funeral, they should be doing it for a lot of money because.

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00:43:11 Matt: Was like it was in their face. The thing was exploding. There was a lava.

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00:43:22 Matt: Pretty much not to, not to mention. Okay. Do you remember the first thing that happened when they okay, they're oh, look, we've struck oil and there's some lava.

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00:43:32 Matt: This is a good idea. Let's go ahead and drill. And then the first thing that happened was the, the oil, where they were doing all the testing and everything them and all their crew just fell right into the, into the lava and they're ah, and then they died.

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00:43:51 Matt: let's not forget the entire town that was wiped out by this tsunami.

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00:43:57 Matt: It. Yeah. Anyway.

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00:43:59 Matt: And killed half the stars of it.

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00:44:02 DJ: You know, Hank, Paul Newman's character actually told the crew that had been doing the drilling that he wanted that well capped, which means, put it on hold because something's happening. And he even suggested that they needed to pardon the, the term here pull out because, because, you know, you in danger, girl?

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00:44:27 DJ: And the only reason that they stayed for purposes of the, the scene was the older guy who said he's got kids he's putting through school. So they've got to stay so he can earn a paycheck. I mean, if.

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00:44:42 Matt: Their entire education's going to be paid for. But now.

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00:44:46 DJ: Sorry, but if you are in a drilling crew and your union, you are getting paid, whether or not that operation continues because the company guarantees your wages in your contract. So I don't but, you know, we're not going to discuss that because we don't, you know, we don't pull the strings at the studio there. So Matt, when we turn the microphone around and ask you a question, you're under the light now. Haha. In a life or death disaster, do you think a person's true character is revealed by the choices they make under pressure, under pressure? Or can fear cause even good people to act in ways that don't really reflect who they really are? So, you know, you're at someone's house and there's a party, and then you find out what kind of person they really are when the news breaks, we're out of toilet paper.

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00:45:43 Matt: Exactly. MM.

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00:46:03 Matt: And you.

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00:46:14 Matt: Mhm. Mhm.

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00:46:32 Matt: Yeah.

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00:46:40 Matt: The.

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00:46:41 DJ: We'll just call them what they are. Lemmings.

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00:47:17 DJ: Well, I'm just trying to peel it back to the story I'm trying to remember. Weren't the people who were trying to get the people to stay the ones who ran the hotel? Because maybe if.

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00:47:31 DJ: Stayed, they could rack up a bill for room service and whatnot.

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00:47:36 Matt: But, there were a couple of them that that ran the hotel. I mean, Bill Holden, his character, He was the one of the ones who wanted them to stay. But the others, I think they were just, you know, control freak scared. I mean, I don't think they really had much to do with the hotel. They were just, you know, the people who make bad choices. It's no, you're you're showing me evidence. No, I don't live in that reality. I live in the reality where I'm going to burn up with a big fireball comes and kills me. And the the guy who cheated on his wife. So. Ha ha. You know.

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00:48:24 Matt: Oh yeah, it would have been a white person playing Pat Morita, who'd be sitting on being where wearing feathers and some little cape going. We have anchored the the volcano God. Oh, no. He is going to destroy us all for letting white people build on the, It would have been something that would be, horribly racist, cringeworthy on both sides.

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00:48:48 Matt: It.

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00:48:49 Matt: We let settlers on the on the land and.

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00:48:55 DJ: So speaking of people who probably caused waves, we've got a third person in the cast here. Technically, you could say she was a supporting cast member, she was one of the first people on the scene as the movie began, because she had that awkward moment. They're sitting next to her boss on a business trip when he hands her a box with some jewelry in it.

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00:49:19 Matt: And she's no, no, I'm saving myself for Paul Newman.

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00:49:28 Matt: And by the way, you're old enough to be my grandfather.

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00:49:33 DJ: So who was that lady who was.

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00:49:40 Matt: Or. No. Yeah.

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00:49:42 Matt: Yeah.

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00:50:08 Matt: Mhm.

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00:50:19 Matt: Yeah.

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00:50:22 Matt: Wink, wink.

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00:50:24 Matt: But she.

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00:50:27 Matt: Yeah.

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00:50:35 Matt: You know, Hollywood.

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00:50:39 Matt: Yeah.

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00:51:11 Matt: Oh.

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00:51:24 DJ: And tennis and.

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00:51:27 Matt: Definite lesbian.

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00:51:30 Matt: But she had more than one hundred and nine acting credits, and her top her top ones that she's known for are bullshit. which was from nineteen sixty eight. And she starred opposite Steve McQueen.

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00:51:44 Matt: it was, and it's a classic, police thriller remembered for the legendary Sacramento or San Francisco car chase. And, of course, McQueen's iconic performance. day and night, nineteen seventy three, which, was an Oscar winning love letter to filmmaking, is considered one of her finest dramatic performances. murder on the Orient Express, nineteen seventy four. So she did that the next year, and she joined an all star cast for this. yeah. So. And she played Count and Countess. Countess. And yeah, she played that part. And then in The Deep or nineteen seventy seven, one of the biggest box office hits of the decade.

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00:52:35 DJ: Our bicentennial.

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00:52:37 Matt: So she, was did that with Nick Nolte. and it basically made her an international star. I, I, I don't think I've ever watched the deep, but I still hear of it. So it was big.

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00:52:55 Matt: Um.

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00:53:06 Matt: She.

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00:53:08 Matt: Apparently she needed them. I did it for the money. and, and this was, basically, an acclaimed literary adaption. and she delivered one of the strongest dramatic performances of her career opposite Albert Finney. So basically all these movies were the strongest acting thing that she's ever done in the world. But I can see that with maybe The deep or something.

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00:53:40 Matt: I remember him because I watched him a lot on Christmas. He was in the in a musical version of A Christmas Carol, I think it was called Just Scrooge. it's really good.

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00:53:53 Matt: Anyway, so how many of Jacqueline Bisset see movies have you seen.

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00:54:05 Matt: So yeah.

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00:54:07 Matt: Uh.

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00:54:11 DJ: She wasn't going to play the mistress anymore. She didn't want to play the grandmother. Oh. So, yeah, I have sadly only seen two, so I have got some catching up to do. of the ones that I have seen, latter days is a good one. Now, I've been meaning to see this one movie that's on the list of the films she's done. And most things we talk about here on matinee minutia, I'm drawn to it because of the cast. There was a film that Jacqueline Bisset did in nineteen eighty three. So just a handful of years after, When Time ran out, and she starred in this film with some very up and coming, if you will, actors Rob.

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00:54:58 DJ: And Andrew McCarthy in their heyday when these people were going to be associated with the clique called the Brat Pack. So Jacqueline Bisset was in a movie called class where, you know, she was, well, the cougar basically, she was the older woman that the young men desired.

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00:55:19 Matt: I would desire Rob Lowe and, well, Andrew McCarthy for a period of five years, so.

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00:55:28 DJ: You do you know, and I'm I'm trying to remember the name of the movie now, Anne Bancroft, she was in a movie about, an older woman. And I'm forgetting what the name of it is right now, but it's.

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00:55:39 DJ: The graduate. Yes. Do you know that in the nineties, there was a George Michael song that was remixed, and it had sound clips from different things, and one of them was from The Graduate, and it was that line. Anne Bancroft says that so iconic. Yes. Are you trying to seduce me? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

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00:56:09 DJ: Samantha, how many of Miss Jacqueline Bisset films have you seen? You stalker? So we are at about the halfway mark in our show. If you couldn't tell by the, the tremors and the things being thrown at people's, hotel rooms. So we're going to take a brief break for, some ads, some jingles, some nostalgia, something from nineteen eighty that says every kiss begins with Kay. Maybe, I don't know. Uh-uh.

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00:56:52 Speaker 9: I'm hoping for a wide body. I probably won't get one this flight. You sure will.

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00:57:01 Speaker 9: I reserved eleven in advance. You probably don't have it. Got it right here.

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00:57:16 Speaker 9: I like lime in my tomato juice. I probably can't get it. Oh, when you fly United Airlines, you can set your sights a little higher.

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00:57:26 Speaker 9: You probably don't have anything I'd like to read.

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00:57:32 Speaker 9: I know I wrote it.

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00:57:39 Speaker 9: You probably won't believe this. I had a very nice flight.

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00:57:49 Speaker 9: Out here, we entertain ourselves at home. So we got an Atari video game. There's so many different games to play. We especially like Space Invaders. There's little devils from outer space. It's fun. But personally, I think the whole idea of creatures from outer space is a little far fetched. No other company offers you as many different video game cartridges as Atari.

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00:05:57 Speaker 9: Even after five hundred plays, our high fidelity tape still delivers high fidelity. It's worth it.

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00:58:52 DJ: Alright, we've survived the intermission, and our intrepid band of survivors is still trying to figure out how to get off this cursed island before the volcano completely ruins their vacation.

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00:59:40 DJ: Well, they had a tight budget. All the money went to Paul Newman's salary and the catering truck. But speaking of the third act, let's break down the final leg of this cinematic masterpiece. This is where the tension hits its absolute peak, right before everyone either gets rescued or incinerated.

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01:00:38 DJ: And let's not forget the emotional high points, like characters pausing during a life-or-death evacuation to resolve personal relationship triangles that were established in the first ten minutes. Because nothing says "we might die in a fiery pit" like stopping to discuss who is dating whom.

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01:01:30 DJ: And how about the helicopter scenes? Earlier you mentioned them stealing a chopper. They try to fly out, but the air currents—or rather, the string attached to the model helicopter—makes it veer wildly out of control and crash into the side of the mountain in a glorious ball of miniature pyrotechnics.

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01:02:30 DJ: Absolutely. So, as we wrap up season eight, episode twenty-two, and prepare to close down the video store and bleach the pool, we have to ask ourselves: would we recommend When Time Ran Out to our loyal listeners?

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01:03:12 DJ: Perfect. Well, that brings us to the end of another season of Matinee Minutiae. We want to thank all of our listeners for sticking with us through time travel, shag carpets, and questionable cinematic history. We're going to go take our summer hiatus now, stay cool out there in the Upstate heat, and remember: always check for active volcanoes before you book your resort stay.

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01:03:50 Mystery Announcer: This has been a Matinee Minutiae production. Tune in next time as we rewind the tape and step back into the past.

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About the Podcast

Matinee Minutiae
the cinema deep dive for true movie nerds
## **Matinee Minutiae: The Cinema Deep-Dive for True Movie Nerds**

Ever found yourself ignoring the plot of a movie because you were too busy wondering why that one character actor looks so familiar? Or maybe you've paused a film just to look up the exact month it was released to see if it coincided with a forgotten snack food launch?

If you live for the "Wait, was that...?" moments, **Matinee Minutiae** is the podcast you’ve been searching for.

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### **What is Matinee Minutiae?**
Hosted by **DJ Starsage** and **Matt Burlingame**, this isn't just another "two guys talking about movies" show. *Matinee Minutiae* is a deep-dive expedition into the DNA of film history. While other shows give you a 20-minute recap of the plot, we spend nearly two hours unearthing the trivia, the casting "what-ifs," and the cultural landscape that surrounded your favorite films.

From 90s conspiracy thrillers like *The Net* to 80s creature features like *Invaders from Mars*, we treat every film—whether it's a blockbuster or a "forgotten" TV movie—with the scholarly respect and obsessive curiosity it deserves.

### **Why Should You Listen?**

* **Beyond the Screen:** We don’t just talk about the movie; we talk about the *year*. Every episode is a time capsule, exploring the world as it was when the film hit theaters (or TV screens).
* **The Deepest Dives:** Have you ever wanted to know the connection between Natalie Wood and the studio system in 1965? Or the specific career trajectory of character actors from 1978's *Foul Play*? We do the homework so you don’t have to.
* **A "No-Snob" Zone:** We love *The Divine Ms. M* just as much as we love obscure sci-fi and 70s detective wonders. If it’s cinema, it’s worth our minutiae.
* **Community-Driven:** Our listeners are as obsessed as we are. Whether it's discussing the legacy of Elvira or debating the best 1980s Halloween candy, the conversation extends far beyond the microphone.

### **The Matinee Experience**
Imagine sitting down with two friends who know *everything* about the movie you just watched—and they aren't just telling you if it was good or bad. They’re telling you why that specific director was chosen, which roles were turned down by Hollywood legends, and what the critics were actually saying at the time.

**Matinee Minutiae** is the ultimate companion for the cinephile who knows that the most interesting things about a movie often happen when the camera isn't rolling.

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### **How to Join the Conversation**
With over 8 seasons and nearly 170 episodes of trivia-packed content, there is a massive library waiting for you.

* **Website:** matineeminutiae.com
* **Email:** matineeminutiae@gmail.com
* **Find us on:** Apple Podcasts, BlueSky, Odysee, and wherever you get your audio deep-dives.

> *"The Matinee Minutiae Podcast is one of the rare gems you're always looking for but can never seem to find. Stop reading this and hit play already!"* — **A Long-time Listener**

**Ready to obsess over the details? We’ll see you at the matinee.**

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